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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol Lumina! What a great story! I think the feeling of extreme engorgement is one that stays with you always. And the relief of being emptied. Ahhhh. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol Lumina! What a great story! I think the feeling of extreme engorgement is one that stays with you always. And the relief of being emptied. Ahhhh. <img src='http://www.sustainablemothering.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lumina</title>
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		<dc:creator>lumina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My youngest is 16 years old and reading these comments have made my breasts ache simply from memory!

My worst day was when some friends and I decided to go to Seattle for the day. I was travelling an hour and a half from my 4 month old son so I pumped enough milk to leave for my mother to feed him, packed my hand pump in my purse, and went off to enjoy my first foray without a child in tow.

While in Pike Place Market my breasts became so uncomfortably engorged I thought I would cry. I tried to go to several public restrooms to pump but they were all full of women doing their &quot;thing&quot; (furthermore, it was a busy day at the market and there were LINES for the bathrooms!) or they were all just so nasty dirty that I couldn&#039;t seem to relax enough to achieve let-down. I kept trying for two hours to no avail.

Finally, a friend of mine who HAD brought her 10 month old daughter with her on the trip, came up with a good idea. She too breastfed so she offered me her child. I was stunned. It DID have that &quot;cross-wired&quot; feeling to it, but not due to sexuality. It was simply not MY child. At first her daughter fussed at me. Mine was not the breast she was looking for. But eventually she latched on and I had two immediate reactions:
1. OMG what a RELIEF!!!!
2. OMG she has TEETH!!!

LOL!

It all ended well and I learned my lesson. I never let my son go from my side for more than 30-40 minutes at a time until our breastfeeding days were over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My youngest is 16 years old and reading these comments have made my breasts ache simply from memory!</p>
<p>My worst day was when some friends and I decided to go to Seattle for the day. I was travelling an hour and a half from my 4 month old son so I pumped enough milk to leave for my mother to feed him, packed my hand pump in my purse, and went off to enjoy my first foray without a child in tow.</p>
<p>While in Pike Place Market my breasts became so uncomfortably engorged I thought I would cry. I tried to go to several public restrooms to pump but they were all full of women doing their &#8220;thing&#8221; (furthermore, it was a busy day at the market and there were LINES for the bathrooms!) or they were all just so nasty dirty that I couldn&#8217;t seem to relax enough to achieve let-down. I kept trying for two hours to no avail.</p>
<p>Finally, a friend of mine who HAD brought her 10 month old daughter with her on the trip, came up with a good idea. She too breastfed so she offered me her child. I was stunned. It DID have that &#8220;cross-wired&#8221; feeling to it, but not due to sexuality. It was simply not MY child. At first her daughter fussed at me. Mine was not the breast she was looking for. But eventually she latched on and I had two immediate reactions:<br />
1. OMG what a RELIEF!!!!<br />
2. OMG she has TEETH!!!</p>
<p>LOL!</p>
<p>It all ended well and I learned my lesson. I never let my son go from my side for more than 30-40 minutes at a time until our breastfeeding days were over.<br />
<span class="cluv">lumina&#180;s last [type] ..<a class="51ae1758f7 1964" rel="nofollow" href="http://beinglumina.blogspot.com/2011/01/black-and-white-thinking-and-various.html">Black and White Thinking and the Various Uses for a Corncob</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will chime in from the male point of view. After three kids, I can totally recommend that husbands breastfeed to help out their wives. Hand-expressing and pumping have their place, but sometimes nothing works quite like the combination of mild suction and rolling tongue pressure to relieve engorgement or plugged ducts. I understand why some people may shy away from doing this at first - as others have mentioned - &quot;crossed wires&quot; between sexuality and nurturing, or perhaps even a general aversion to body fluids, etc. However, watching the extreme pain that my wife was in with massively engorged breast tissue directly after the birth of each child left me with no choice but to help out. Usually all that needs to be done is to drain just enough milk to soften the breast to the point where the child can take over. The allows the child to get a deep latch, preventing nipple blistering - and it may also prevent more serious problems like mastitis by relieving plugged ducts - not to mention reducing overall pain and pressure. There are also those times when the child is sleeping or not around yet the mom still needs some release to stay &#039;on schedule&#039;. The taste is watery and sweet at first, transitioning to more creamy after a couple of minutes. It tastes like warm half-and-half and I actually like the flavor quite a bit. The experience is mostly pragmatic, though it is also intimate and enjoyable for a couple. The mom wins, the dad wins, and the child wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will chime in from the male point of view. After three kids, I can totally recommend that husbands breastfeed to help out their wives. Hand-expressing and pumping have their place, but sometimes nothing works quite like the combination of mild suction and rolling tongue pressure to relieve engorgement or plugged ducts. I understand why some people may shy away from doing this at first &#8211; as others have mentioned &#8211; &#8220;crossed wires&#8221; between sexuality and nurturing, or perhaps even a general aversion to body fluids, etc. However, watching the extreme pain that my wife was in with massively engorged breast tissue directly after the birth of each child left me with no choice but to help out. Usually all that needs to be done is to drain just enough milk to soften the breast to the point where the child can take over. The allows the child to get a deep latch, preventing nipple blistering &#8211; and it may also prevent more serious problems like mastitis by relieving plugged ducts &#8211; not to mention reducing overall pain and pressure. There are also those times when the child is sleeping or not around yet the mom still needs some release to stay &#8216;on schedule&#8217;. The taste is watery and sweet at first, transitioning to more creamy after a couple of minutes. It tastes like warm half-and-half and I actually like the flavor quite a bit. The experience is mostly pragmatic, though it is also intimate and enjoyable for a couple. The mom wins, the dad wins, and the child wins.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will try this with hubby tonight
as I am having problems right now
thanks to you all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will try this with hubby tonight<br />
as I am having problems right now<br />
thanks to you all</p>
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		<title>By: ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my hubby milked me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my hubby milked me</p>
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		<title>By: Melodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t watch Weeds but I am so impressed something like this happened on mainstream television! And I heard it here first! I just had to express my shared joy.
.-= Melodie&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BreastfeedingMomsUnite/~3/D6Ja_RU6VAs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Foodie Fridays: Wild Blackberry Coffee Cake&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t watch Weeds but I am so impressed something like this happened on mainstream television! And I heard it here first! I just had to express my shared joy.<br />
.-= Melodie&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BreastfeedingMomsUnite/~3/D6Ja_RU6VAs/" rel="nofollow">Foodie Fridays: Wild Blackberry Coffee Cake</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 01:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t watch Weeds, but what an intriguing conversation. I think my husband would attempt something like this if I could explain the necessity, but do think it would freak him out a bit. I don&#039;t think there&#039;d be any confusion that this is not sexual, as he was always uncomfortable with any leaking. Supportive of breastfeeding, but the leaking could make sex take a nosedive. 

Just to touch on @FeministBreeder&#039;s comment (but not to purposely make you nauseous). I&#039;ve done some business traveling while nursing, but pumping away on business only for relief, since there was lots at home (and baby was 18+ mos old). I hate the idea of dumping something so precious and always tend to get sick when I travel on planes. I pretty much always drink most of what I express with a pump. It&#039;s kind of sweet. It doesn&#039;t taste like cow milk at all (from what I remember) and of course it was warm. 

I really enjoyed your thoughts and all the comments.
.-= Karen&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://intentionalbirth.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/walking-the-tightrope/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Walking the Tightrope&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t watch Weeds, but what an intriguing conversation. I think my husband would attempt something like this if I could explain the necessity, but do think it would freak him out a bit. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;d be any confusion that this is not sexual, as he was always uncomfortable with any leaking. Supportive of breastfeeding, but the leaking could make sex take a nosedive. </p>
<p>Just to touch on @FeministBreeder&#8217;s comment (but not to purposely make you nauseous). I&#8217;ve done some business traveling while nursing, but pumping away on business only for relief, since there was lots at home (and baby was 18+ mos old). I hate the idea of dumping something so precious and always tend to get sick when I travel on planes. I pretty much always drink most of what I express with a pump. It&#8217;s kind of sweet. It doesn&#8217;t taste like cow milk at all (from what I remember) and of course it was warm. </p>
<p>I really enjoyed your thoughts and all the comments.<br />
.-= Karen&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://intentionalbirth.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/walking-the-tightrope/" rel="nofollow">Walking the Tightrope</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: TheFeministBreeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheFeministBreeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jake, I appreciate the help.

I acknowledge that it is very strange that I won&#039;t taste my own breastmilk - and I have never, and would never, shame another mother for doing so (I&#039;m actually pretty impressed - same way I feel about people who dive with sharks, no way I&#039;d do it, but more power to you!)

I also don&#039;t understand why being a feminist means I&#039;m required to act exactly the way any other woman would act.  My own personal feelings (call them hangups if you like) is that my breastmilk is not for my (or my husband&#039;s) consumption.  

In fact, when DH asked me what I&#039;d do if I ever found myself in this situation, and refused his help with it, I told him I&#039;d head to the nearest hospital. They all have breastpumps.  That&#039;s how far I&#039;d go to avoid my husband&#039;s mouth touching my baby&#039;s breastmilk.  Would I expect other mothers to do the same thing?  Absolutely not.  Do what works for you.
.-= TheFeministBreeder&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://thefeministbreeder.typepad.com/the_feminist_breeder/2009/08/wordless-wednesday.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wordless Wednesday&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jake, I appreciate the help.</p>
<p>I acknowledge that it is very strange that I won&#8217;t taste my own breastmilk &#8211; and I have never, and would never, shame another mother for doing so (I&#8217;m actually pretty impressed &#8211; same way I feel about people who dive with sharks, no way I&#8217;d do it, but more power to you!)</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t understand why being a feminist means I&#8217;m required to act exactly the way any other woman would act.  My own personal feelings (call them hangups if you like) is that my breastmilk is not for my (or my husband&#8217;s) consumption.  </p>
<p>In fact, when DH asked me what I&#8217;d do if I ever found myself in this situation, and refused his help with it, I told him I&#8217;d head to the nearest hospital. They all have breastpumps.  That&#8217;s how far I&#8217;d go to avoid my husband&#8217;s mouth touching my baby&#8217;s breastmilk.  Would I expect other mothers to do the same thing?  Absolutely not.  Do what works for you.<br />
.-= TheFeministBreeder&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://thefeministbreeder.typepad.com/the_feminist_breeder/2009/08/wordless-wednesday.html" rel="nofollow">Wordless Wednesday</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Draw those fangs in @Kristin! @FeministBreeder didn&#039;t condemn anyone for drinking their own breast milk.  She personally is repelled by it. I don&#039;t see where feminism comes into this or how not wanting to drink breast milk (or have your mate drink yours) makes you any less a feminist.

Your comment reminds me of a Wendy Wasserstein play from the &#039;70s in which young feminists at a seven sisters school are discussing what they considered a rite of passage for young feminists: tasting their menstrual blood.  It is ridiculous to say the willingness to do act X entirely defines whether you can be a feminist is ... well ...not feminist. I never tasted by own breast milk. The color was off-putting to me and I dislike any animal milk. It was a sensory issue, not a feminist one.
.-= Jake&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.jakemarcus.com/2009/08/04/suck-n-spit-on-weeds-yes-they-really-relieved-breast-engorgement-like-that/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Suck ‘N Spit on Weeds: Yes, They Really Relieved Breast Engorgement Like THAT&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Draw those fangs in @Kristin! @FeministBreeder didn&#8217;t condemn anyone for drinking their own breast milk.  She personally is repelled by it. I don&#8217;t see where feminism comes into this or how not wanting to drink breast milk (or have your mate drink yours) makes you any less a feminist.</p>
<p>Your comment reminds me of a Wendy Wasserstein play from the &#8217;70s in which young feminists at a seven sisters school are discussing what they considered a rite of passage for young feminists: tasting their menstrual blood.  It is ridiculous to say the willingness to do act X entirely defines whether you can be a feminist is &#8230; well &#8230;not feminist. I never tasted by own breast milk. The color was off-putting to me and I dislike any animal milk. It was a sensory issue, not a feminist one.<br />
.-= Jake&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://blog.jakemarcus.com/2009/08/04/suck-n-spit-on-weeds-yes-they-really-relieved-breast-engorgement-like-that/" rel="nofollow">Suck ‘N Spit on Weeds: Yes, They Really Relieved Breast Engorgement Like THAT</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Monique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an astonishing conversation! I&#039;d never have thought of using my hubby - I had good luck with both manual pumps and electric pumps - but totally understand the need to get that extra milk out! Having said that, I nursed two babies and my husband was always totally supportive as well as completely happy with my breastfeeding. If I&#039;d needed him to do this, I&#039;m sure he would have - without confusing it with anything sexual. I am a great supporter of breastfeeding and often remind women about the virtues of pretty nursing bras so they can be both mama and lover - after all, why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an astonishing conversation! I&#8217;d never have thought of using my hubby &#8211; I had good luck with both manual pumps and electric pumps &#8211; but totally understand the need to get that extra milk out! Having said that, I nursed two babies and my husband was always totally supportive as well as completely happy with my breastfeeding. If I&#8217;d needed him to do this, I&#8217;m sure he would have &#8211; without confusing it with anything sexual. I am a great supporter of breastfeeding and often remind women about the virtues of pretty nursing bras so they can be both mama and lover &#8211; after all, why not?</p>
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